Warning: Religion and Politics may be fatal.
Has there ever been a Christian vote - anywhere?
Seems to me that “Christians” go with what is viewed as the ‘better of the two evils”. And when both sides are as rotten as the other, they merely philosophize one sides view until it fits into their doctrine and a new dogma is formed which represents nothing from which the Bible originally taught. - Love.
Anyway.
I think the Mennonites might have been onto something buy incorporating into their belief system the idea of abstaining from politics and voting all together.
It used to seem a far fetched idea to me, especially being raised in a milieu that put specific emphasis on voting and changing the world for God.
Ironically, it appears that Jesus never went about with the idea of changing the world to mimic that of a doctrinal belief system. It seemed that such an idea was futile in light of his ultimate teaching of loving your neighbor as yourself and loving God with all your heart.
We see that he was frowned upon by the zealots and Judas for not complying to their wishes and ‘human understanding’ of what Jesus teachings implied. They wanted a kingdom on earth and to make a change in the political landscape of their day.
Well, Jesus didnt seem to think that would do.
Even when Peter, who often seemed not to get the gist of things - and in truth, how could he. Jesus had spoke to the fisherman in as clear a parable as he could have at the time, in order to relate with Peters line of thinking. - But it was a rabbi, by the name of Saul, that actually got the point, and of to whom was later misunderstood by his gentile audience. (Due to their lack of understanding and relating to the Jewish culture, a lot slipped through the cracks in the belief system.)
So when Peter went about cutting off a soldiers ear, Jesus popped it back on. (some good quantum physics at work. And who said science and religion dont match. Religion is the allegory, and science is the means of practical understanding…or unlocking those allegorical keys.)
In essence, we have had Christian societies trying to force a change on the world, which was never the intent to begin with from the likes of Jesus, Buddha, etc. -
Change happens first and foremost within.
Love does not have expectations of oneself or of others.
It accepts where they are at. And those who are Christians, have they studied or even read the Bible, would know this to be true by the example laid out in the life of Jesus and how he interacted with people.
Alas, many do not read the Bible for themselves. They are spoon fed ideologies which would make the apostle Paul flip over in his grave. After all, the pious of the pious, actually commended the Bereans for their diligence in not just believing what he had said, but first and foremost, searching for themselves.
“Seek and you will find, when you search with all your heart.”
note the absence of “seek within your own dogma, doctrine, relgion”. True sincerity is needed in this journey, or there is no way of being truly authentic. Well, perhaps authentically locked in chains by ones own instilled belief system, ingrained into them by their milieu.
I would say Thomas Merton provides a nice example of one, who was not afraid to reach out, to cross borders, in order to understand and see God within everybody.
He lets the rain fall on the good and the bad…
A little leaven (lie) runs the whole dough. Time to extract that 99% truth then. After all, Christianity has not been immune to such leaven. This is evident with the 3 mainstream lines of thinking of how one is saved. Which is quite contradictory, and therefore no one can be sure of who truly will be saved. (Unless you just take one side and go with it.)
- get saved, oops, did I just lose it on the way from the alter?(pentecostal)
- once saved always saved - Baptist
- predestination - you are once saved always saved, because you were chosen to be so, and the guy/gal over there was chose as a common pot to burn in hell. - presbyterian
- catholicism has purgatory, which ironically (or not so ironic) is more in line with a Jewish doctrine on the after life.
So, point is, let us seek with all of our hearts. As we see, no one religion can claim exclusive rights to the truth.
And when we find this ‘love’ within ourselves, and truly begin to ‘love’ ourselves as defined by Paul…then this trickle down effect will reach to those immediately around us - and then like a rushing avalanche will affect the entire world around us.
Peace
dAlen
p.s. - I originally posted this at a comment {awaiting moderation} at another blog.
It was so long and heart felt, that I decided to post it here as well
p.s.s. - to further a point about what was said in this article.
In Genesis, after the flood, it states that a man that takes another mans life will have his taken also. {period, no exceptions}
So its ironic that a ‘Christian’ nation would ever go to war.
And this may also show why wars never seem to end - violence does not stop violence - it only begets it. — time to open the Bible and read it, there is some useful info in there after all. ;)
To paraphrase Inidigo Montoya (spelling) in the Princess Bride: “Its time to go back to the beginning.” :)
Seems to me that “Christians” go with what is viewed as the ‘better of the two evils”. And when both sides are as rotten as the other, they merely philosophize one sides view until it fits into their doctrine and a new dogma is formed which represents nothing from which the Bible originally taught. - Love.
Anyway.
I think the Mennonites might have been onto something buy incorporating into their belief system the idea of abstaining from politics and voting all together.
It used to seem a far fetched idea to me, especially being raised in a milieu that put specific emphasis on voting and changing the world for God.
Ironically, it appears that Jesus never went about with the idea of changing the world to mimic that of a doctrinal belief system. It seemed that such an idea was futile in light of his ultimate teaching of loving your neighbor as yourself and loving God with all your heart.
We see that he was frowned upon by the zealots and Judas for not complying to their wishes and ‘human understanding’ of what Jesus teachings implied. They wanted a kingdom on earth and to make a change in the political landscape of their day.
Well, Jesus didnt seem to think that would do.
Even when Peter, who often seemed not to get the gist of things - and in truth, how could he. Jesus had spoke to the fisherman in as clear a parable as he could have at the time, in order to relate with Peters line of thinking. - But it was a rabbi, by the name of Saul, that actually got the point, and of to whom was later misunderstood by his gentile audience. (Due to their lack of understanding and relating to the Jewish culture, a lot slipped through the cracks in the belief system.)
So when Peter went about cutting off a soldiers ear, Jesus popped it back on. (some good quantum physics at work. And who said science and religion dont match. Religion is the allegory, and science is the means of practical understanding…or unlocking those allegorical keys.)
In essence, we have had Christian societies trying to force a change on the world, which was never the intent to begin with from the likes of Jesus, Buddha, etc. -
Change happens first and foremost within.
Love does not have expectations of oneself or of others.
It accepts where they are at. And those who are Christians, have they studied or even read the Bible, would know this to be true by the example laid out in the life of Jesus and how he interacted with people.
Alas, many do not read the Bible for themselves. They are spoon fed ideologies which would make the apostle Paul flip over in his grave. After all, the pious of the pious, actually commended the Bereans for their diligence in not just believing what he had said, but first and foremost, searching for themselves.
“Seek and you will find, when you search with all your heart.”
note the absence of “seek within your own dogma, doctrine, relgion”. True sincerity is needed in this journey, or there is no way of being truly authentic. Well, perhaps authentically locked in chains by ones own instilled belief system, ingrained into them by their milieu.
I would say Thomas Merton provides a nice example of one, who was not afraid to reach out, to cross borders, in order to understand and see God within everybody.
He lets the rain fall on the good and the bad…
A little leaven (lie) runs the whole dough. Time to extract that 99% truth then. After all, Christianity has not been immune to such leaven. This is evident with the 3 mainstream lines of thinking of how one is saved. Which is quite contradictory, and therefore no one can be sure of who truly will be saved. (Unless you just take one side and go with it.)
- get saved, oops, did I just lose it on the way from the alter?(pentecostal)
- once saved always saved - Baptist
- predestination - you are once saved always saved, because you were chosen to be so, and the guy/gal over there was chose as a common pot to burn in hell. - presbyterian
- catholicism has purgatory, which ironically (or not so ironic) is more in line with a Jewish doctrine on the after life.
So, point is, let us seek with all of our hearts. As we see, no one religion can claim exclusive rights to the truth.
And when we find this ‘love’ within ourselves, and truly begin to ‘love’ ourselves as defined by Paul…then this trickle down effect will reach to those immediately around us - and then like a rushing avalanche will affect the entire world around us.
Peace
dAlen
p.s. - I originally posted this at a comment {awaiting moderation} at another blog.
It was so long and heart felt, that I decided to post it here as well
p.s.s. - to further a point about what was said in this article.
In Genesis, after the flood, it states that a man that takes another mans life will have his taken also. {period, no exceptions}
So its ironic that a ‘Christian’ nation would ever go to war.
And this may also show why wars never seem to end - violence does not stop violence - it only begets it. — time to open the Bible and read it, there is some useful info in there after all. ;)
To paraphrase Inidigo Montoya (spelling) in the Princess Bride: “Its time to go back to the beginning.” :)